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text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEi-6hSMdXrmiSyNo3KkWm2EC-4_LH5wv9ZvrIn1P1nEsBxPyCRWmgdapzCne_iLceNNi8hPWNW230gLmCpTUQvGeO16GeSGqHMUoppiEvRBbcvYCVhyphenhyphenxaLyGmrPiK4gG1oFagXdt6GgMGfD\/s1600\/IMG_1333.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEi-6hSMdXrmiSyNo3KkWm2EC-4_LH5wv9ZvrIn1P1nEsBxPyCRWmgdapzCne_iLceNNi8hPWNW230gLmCpTUQvGeO16GeSGqHMUoppiEvRBbcvYCVhyphenhyphenxaLyGmrPiK4gG1oFagXdt6GgMGfD\/s1600\/IMG_1333.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nA little while ago I went on a ride with some friends along the \u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/South_Downs_Way\"\u003ESouth Downs Way\u003C\/a\u003E, this is a bridleway that tracks the ridge line of the South Downs, a string of hills that run east-west along the southern part of England. \u0026nbsp;As you would imagine from the picture above it's a seamlessly never-ending run of rolling green hills, sheep and gravel. \u0026nbsp;In the summer, the ground is dry and chalky with some sharp flinty rocks, in the winter and after rain this turns into a thick claggy mess, some of the stickiest mud I've ever seen.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEinWFWnYSXHA8lU6iyC-DRiFvnDtdME_hQpwebRU6LMemkYqfGtfdVJH1sUf0VXlv7WTccJF4joKDVD6lx-Od9-3MChqItgcQhJiec24rpVpE9dpDGjU_ruS3V5xirmGRwXAcpcFR9clJJK\/s1600\/IMG_1317.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEinWFWnYSXHA8lU6iyC-DRiFvnDtdME_hQpwebRU6LMemkYqfGtfdVJH1sUf0VXlv7WTccJF4joKDVD6lx-Od9-3MChqItgcQhJiec24rpVpE9dpDGjU_ruS3V5xirmGRwXAcpcFR9clJJK\/s1600\/IMG_1317.jpg\" width=\"480\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjjz90Q7ygYDES9TTiwg0U1NMzO5KnlvNnbeWpsAGd5z2weYSp9stx4XOE_GY4mIhn7hPOQ6ADdgGU3gZBa1ym8ySWEi3fKhc-eph5S4hCQXuN8rrLd2BUdKBm467unrOIgqRRZkUq-YoiJ\/s1600\/IMG_1318.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjjz90Q7ygYDES9TTiwg0U1NMzO5KnlvNnbeWpsAGd5z2weYSp9stx4XOE_GY4mIhn7hPOQ6ADdgGU3gZBa1ym8ySWEi3fKhc-eph5S4hCQXuN8rrLd2BUdKBm467unrOIgqRRZkUq-YoiJ\/s1600\/IMG_1318.jpg\" width=\"480\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgnUfeSkVYOgoUM6z31UOfcLMV7QQJDMaj-RkHkrjO8KzIo0nTD07XVhu9JvsqN_jBI-gy9o6OsV3XkGxr_T3I3VQA6fXnRlk3rAkcqBOkcLFN33yr7Vcj-IZE4f2W83J4A5KV06C0mGNVd\/s1600\/IMG_1319.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgnUfeSkVYOgoUM6z31UOfcLMV7QQJDMaj-RkHkrjO8KzIo0nTD07XVhu9JvsqN_jBI-gy9o6OsV3XkGxr_T3I3VQA6fXnRlk3rAkcqBOkcLFN33yr7Vcj-IZE4f2W83J4A5KV06C0mGNVd\/s1600\/IMG_1319.jpg\" width=\"480\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nApart from the crazy amounts of mud you can see above, I managed to rip off my rear derailleur by snapping the hanger. \u0026nbsp;I suspect this happened because not long ago I got a stick caught in it which bent it, I subsequently bent it back straight, however it being aluminium means it probably work hardened and became brittle. \u0026nbsp;Thus I had to ride home in single speed mode, this meant tackling 10% dirt climbs in 50 x 20t which wasn't much fun. \u0026nbsp;Add to this that it was difficult to get the chain to stay in gear without the derailleur, it took a lot of trial and error to find the neutral gear where it didn't want to move. \u0026nbsp;This meant breaking and joining the chain several times which weakened it to the point that it broke every few kilometres... \u0026nbsp;not a good day!\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhqIRT5TMkOdsRPpNZoKzg_gmgaeeXaw-SLsKzSDZb2HjMPkbbyGMXmAW0feFx-G-r8aJa2K6VdIu1lFu18qtvG8FV3aZ51Y5Ow6odcBp3tvESbz_UWMEWWLq1Byj95bRa1bxNE0ZnN6Xrx\/s1600\/IMG_1321.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhqIRT5TMkOdsRPpNZoKzg_gmgaeeXaw-SLsKzSDZb2HjMPkbbyGMXmAW0feFx-G-r8aJa2K6VdIu1lFu18qtvG8FV3aZ51Y5Ow6odcBp3tvESbz_UWMEWWLq1Byj95bRa1bxNE0ZnN6Xrx\/s1600\/IMG_1321.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nAfter this I put the bike away and it wasn't until the next weekend that I cleaned it up and had a good look at everything. \u0026nbsp;The derailleur hanger was easy enough to replace, however on closer inspection...\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhYXuUrvzHY_KxkSZoepvzyyAsoxKj1nGIZaST5MNN3Fd4XgIwTZ0iOkMbGW1HlBkmyTi7wimd2kQYehERxELSZdRiBYuOKNnrAFjolTcdlIbgzzI6yfBg_w70rsYrJg5iJRlcT1IiWkYqc\/s1600\/IMG_1410.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhYXuUrvzHY_KxkSZoepvzyyAsoxKj1nGIZaST5MNN3Fd4XgIwTZ0iOkMbGW1HlBkmyTi7wimd2kQYehERxELSZdRiBYuOKNnrAFjolTcdlIbgzzI6yfBg_w70rsYrJg5iJRlcT1IiWkYqc\/s1600\/IMG_1410.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nI found that I had rubbed through the NDS chainstay, the tyre always cleared this but the buildup of mud over time must have been abrasive enough to go through 2 layers of carbon. \u0026nbsp;Nothing too structural or mega critical however I don't like to take chances with things like this. \u0026nbsp;Having enquired about the cost of repair, it didn't make economic sense as I bought this frame on clearance and repairing it would be more than buying one brand new.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiR26uQejPzGpnJNmV0b_mVVZ9ETgL_1vhQR6_cZrjyK1Bky9bPkDi7GpwRUllY88OgHwOAy4VCeZBjf8YUHyGBmtqaLJCnK17VZaOuyWGGTYFTxbxtJYXC9ytrGQU9mXxMTCWKH-IUhGg9\/s1600\/IMG_1638.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiR26uQejPzGpnJNmV0b_mVVZ9ETgL_1vhQR6_cZrjyK1Bky9bPkDi7GpwRUllY88OgHwOAy4VCeZBjf8YUHyGBmtqaLJCnK17VZaOuyWGGTYFTxbxtJYXC9ytrGQU9mXxMTCWKH-IUhGg9\/s1600\/IMG_1638.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nAt this stage I will try to sell it to recoup my costs. \u0026nbsp;This was my first foray into carbon fibre and let's say it wasn't a great one. \u0026nbsp;I will likely look for a new frame with a bit more clearance, particularly one that can run larger 650b tyres. \u0026nbsp;Stay tuned for more...\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; 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text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiIwvpoHN-BeFIpmieaZAiMeQoBJ8OgrGb1fWwIGY4OaqLDWPkfDrHaobno0pJmTW2ADvp4xBBiNhW1RwCCdbiXzqfO0b8YNyGnj9Q0ywgusVpL5DPfoOBunFSqyp_B9CkPyOMF7OdOGURD\/s1600\/DSCF9127.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiIwvpoHN-BeFIpmieaZAiMeQoBJ8OgrGb1fWwIGY4OaqLDWPkfDrHaobno0pJmTW2ADvp4xBBiNhW1RwCCdbiXzqfO0b8YNyGnj9Q0ywgusVpL5DPfoOBunFSqyp_B9CkPyOMF7OdOGURD\/s1600\/DSCF9127.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\n\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nThe Problem\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nAfter six years of use I was starting to get some problems with my chainrings, occasionally shifting down into the small ring would cause chainsuck. \u0026nbsp;Usually this is caused by worn teeth, slowly the chain rollers wear into the teeth and they start to take on a profile similar to a shark's tooth. \u0026nbsp;This causes the position of the chain on the chainring to change over time which means that when shifting down, the chain will not detach from it and it gets driven into the chainstay. \u0026nbsp; Also after 6 years of mostly road riding it really was just time, otherwise I would wear the chain and other drivetrain components more quickly\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nHowever, one would reasonably assume a consumable part like a chainring would be easily replaceable. \u0026nbsp;Not so with Campagnolo, particularly as their bolt pattern is proprietary and not interchangeable with other brands. \u0026nbsp;Firstly Campagnolo decided to hide one bolt hole behind the crank arm and then they decided to offset it 2mm which makes it incompatible with every other chainring on the market. \u0026nbsp;Secondly, they changed the design of the bolts and inner chainrings a few years after my cranks were released. \u0026nbsp;Instead of the conventional two piece chainring bolts, now the inner chainring is threaded and the bolt screws directly into it which is actually kinda neat. \u0026nbsp; However I was not sure whether I could get away with just replacing the outer chainring which was worn and using the original bolts.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhe8keQcCQ9re1Jm_4KZJKcB3jwN1aoeEV6y5FWclsuxBHQW_oCeAQdmSapMq5NbdTdZCKxDDJqSlV7PdPvKQ_ksJs_Mbb-2eho_B4Yo9P5UTF_RIn1RBfWzg1Em6tyu0qllFWXP6Wa8JNh\/s1600\/DSCF9187.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhe8keQcCQ9re1Jm_4KZJKcB3jwN1aoeEV6y5FWclsuxBHQW_oCeAQdmSapMq5NbdTdZCKxDDJqSlV7PdPvKQ_ksJs_Mbb-2eho_B4Yo9P5UTF_RIn1RBfWzg1Em6tyu0qllFWXP6Wa8JNh\/s1600\/DSCF9187.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3 style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nNew Rings\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nSo I ordered the chainrings, a pair of Stronglight CT2 rings which are meant for Campagnolo 11 speed cranksets. This is where the first problems started. \u0026nbsp;I tried using the old style bolts with the old chainring and this didn't work, there was too little thread engagement because the outer bolt sits too far out on the chainring as you can see in the picture below. \u0026nbsp;So then I ordered the Campagnolo new style chainring bolts FC-SR200.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEj-4xTln9GOrCBOh-D80fmyMQsmUAfYyDxv5yp1Oc2jqTStv5_U6JR1NnI4ffin8BiyAOysAdQvNpA0fnee9krxWVmabX8FYPCXljP0JPCEx-DgORHqvqx_2RvsAtVVTMbZBeYcuYGHKl01\/s1600\/DSCF9142.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEj-4xTln9GOrCBOh-D80fmyMQsmUAfYyDxv5yp1Oc2jqTStv5_U6JR1NnI4ffin8BiyAOysAdQvNpA0fnee9krxWVmabX8FYPCXljP0JPCEx-DgORHqvqx_2RvsAtVVTMbZBeYcuYGHKl01\/s1600\/DSCF9142.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhTBhcxDyG8Xs6XFL0TwA0Buxw4Ym_T-g4vzDJF2jLAIyo6PQgiFkBWZlAg01WqAQmS5EG0H2H3nrxMlstZFP5-u7L7lJBjKkMWlfDbxC9HLfZnSe22998sBl-DsoQUrPHNC0iP7dwaVi_s\/s1600\/DSCF9181.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cspan style=\"text-align: center;\"\u003EThe FC-SR200 chainring bolts can be seen on the left with the new style inner chainring which has a smaller threaded hole. \u0026nbsp;The older style bolts are on the right and you can see they are two piece.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cspan style=\"text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgSldAI36_FTeQtRaEafPKLGpG4nwYfBa78nVq_-Pz1U5T0ccr5V3xL_S-KXiaFHdFCXiy-do-LZg15hNPSeHlIotQM-6Vj2l0v6nXrZY82kq1URfDs3V1HzX2eAHUyKGWmWEQ02HvgNSxk\/s1600\/DSCF9177.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgSldAI36_FTeQtRaEafPKLGpG4nwYfBa78nVq_-Pz1U5T0ccr5V3xL_S-KXiaFHdFCXiy-do-LZg15hNPSeHlIotQM-6Vj2l0v6nXrZY82kq1URfDs3V1HzX2eAHUyKGWmWEQ02HvgNSxk\/s1600\/DSCF9177.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cspan style=\"text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\nYou might think that it would be pretty straightforward now to fit these, however it wasn't so simple. \u0026nbsp;You can see in the photo above that there is a pad on the underside of the crank arm where the fifth 112mm BCD offset bolt sits. \u0026nbsp;The thickness of this pad means that the chainring needs an offset cut into the chainring surface so it will sit flat. \u0026nbsp;The Stronglight one was not enough and it made the big ring distort when tightened down. \u0026nbsp;You can see in the photo below the gap made at the chainring holes when only this fifth bolt is tightened, it should be dead flat.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cspan style=\"text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjrCeFy-VEarX4Ct6FCYKz9pxGpV1dSL1_CzX-fCN-T4QKd9GvlCUs6hZtNXSV_B-VTkXIoDA9BxvLKBQx9U49UWbiCqOs0cLkKlMF3Lcl974JTGSSA3xq4WyZG0rBHRf6SnnGUtOxp_VFe\/s1600\/DSCF9186.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjrCeFy-VEarX4Ct6FCYKz9pxGpV1dSL1_CzX-fCN-T4QKd9GvlCUs6hZtNXSV_B-VTkXIoDA9BxvLKBQx9U49UWbiCqOs0cLkKlMF3Lcl974JTGSSA3xq4WyZG0rBHRf6SnnGUtOxp_VFe\/s1600\/DSCF9186.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nSo what to do? \u0026nbsp;I milled down the pad until it sit nice and flat.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEi1FP1tgHYzJV6eYFb6_RTEXMGnBpuy9ub_WAvaEWBNiHmCsATDlxnL9qMdDPt8O3kO8fC2oqc-mpwxILbi2SNFldNYGkTvLWi7HEivGC8hSmmq_-4KXNiP7OYx-AbR6jtIjjiKTRrjgv6O\/s1600\/DSCF9188.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEi1FP1tgHYzJV6eYFb6_RTEXMGnBpuy9ub_WAvaEWBNiHmCsATDlxnL9qMdDPt8O3kO8fC2oqc-mpwxILbi2SNFldNYGkTvLWi7HEivGC8hSmmq_-4KXNiP7OYx-AbR6jtIjjiKTRrjgv6O\/s1600\/DSCF9188.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nNow with the pad milled down both chainrings sit nice and flat on the crank.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgvxDrPEBD2PbitVOAtk9NqB20lNlTdDeFRwui9-jpJ3Q9ixp_SsmXBkXWFpHls6gE6tsDcDUYbKCySLWxqSqC_Lt2XVHaVLN8LPufUbGl_idHa9mQhpnTxw__qWq_pyigc7DKbvtfFfU3Y\/s1600\/DSCF9182.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgvxDrPEBD2PbitVOAtk9NqB20lNlTdDeFRwui9-jpJ3Q9ixp_SsmXBkXWFpHls6gE6tsDcDUYbKCySLWxqSqC_Lt2XVHaVLN8LPufUbGl_idHa9mQhpnTxw__qWq_pyigc7DKbvtfFfU3Y\/s1600\/DSCF9182.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u0026nbsp;\u003Cspan style=\"text-align: center;\"\u003E\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjCqYtBuYWt5FPAcyDiN7w2DbzF3B31aS9jR7Q2SnrvhfI2EX-EvsvVcCJ36UV1QE5r67nyVtqgUt_F3R9WAR5k_Zna8fHNTX0vKsZo0J-dUgHiu6t3bBcdeDS7_wYynBxGU1abDiqnp2Bg\/s1600\/DSCF9192.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjCqYtBuYWt5FPAcyDiN7w2DbzF3B31aS9jR7Q2SnrvhfI2EX-EvsvVcCJ36UV1QE5r67nyVtqgUt_F3R9WAR5k_Zna8fHNTX0vKsZo0J-dUgHiu6t3bBcdeDS7_wYynBxGU1abDiqnp2Bg\/s1600\/DSCF9192.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nOne Little Snag...\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nNow that was sorted I thought that was it, job done. \u0026nbsp;Doing a test ride they seemed fine, except for one thing... The chain suck is even worse! \u0026nbsp;Even with a new chain the chain constantly gets sucked up by the small ring! \u0026nbsp;It happens when shifting down to the small ring, particularly when there is a bit of load on the chain. \u0026nbsp;The old chainrings only did this when they were worn after 6 years of use. \u0026nbsp;This is infuriating and it's made a dent in the bash plate of the frame. \u0026nbsp;Even if I try to always pedal lightly when shifting down which was what I normally do, it will still jam occasionally. \u0026nbsp;Although sometimes it is unavoidable, I will get caught needing to drop to a low gear and accelerate suddenly and it will likely jam.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEj5UuMSnyF_h9GzALipuHWNJvdrhrwUzeghpePpgNqMwNT7PT2_wz2g_T4JIb97LchtodpMDfSR_JrFKr-qbKMlGuLbeVtYaJdyUJochQPLSgXOMrJZxqvUaGwIFy57unDoV_oBvnR1HkcH\/s1600\/IMG_0809.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEj5UuMSnyF_h9GzALipuHWNJvdrhrwUzeghpePpgNqMwNT7PT2_wz2g_T4JIb97LchtodpMDfSR_JrFKr-qbKMlGuLbeVtYaJdyUJochQPLSgXOMrJZxqvUaGwIFy57unDoV_oBvnR1HkcH\/s1600\/IMG_0809.jpg\" width=\"480\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nSecondly the big ring sat too far inboard, it would rub on the big ring's shift pins when running small-small when the chain is at the greatest angle, again this never happened on the old chainrings. \u0026nbsp;I had to use 0.6mm spacers to space out the big ring to prevent this from happening.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nI'm not sure how I can really fix this without changing out the chainring, I think the phasing of the teeth between the chainrings is off which causes the chain to jam. \u0026nbsp;One solution is to file the offending teeth back slightly however this is less than ideal. \u0026nbsp;The amount of modification I've had to do to even get these to fit is frustrating. \u0026nbsp;That's all for now, stay tuned for more. \u0026nbsp;Thanks for reading.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; 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text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgwGZsD8NsgCySr7DbNVayw0yUiVPaGbm6wXLxBw0azRLD7TzLcpJOjX16xSMx0gp46SPirU1FaLGnJv9SoDmzIJbG3JwnoGnEnaXcktbcV5r9Y7SasMDsy3v6RbS8JJd6zRv40NUcgx-ST\/s1600\/DSCF9121.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgwGZsD8NsgCySr7DbNVayw0yUiVPaGbm6wXLxBw0azRLD7TzLcpJOjX16xSMx0gp46SPirU1FaLGnJv9SoDmzIJbG3JwnoGnEnaXcktbcV5r9Y7SasMDsy3v6RbS8JJd6zRv40NUcgx-ST\/s640\/DSCF9121.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nNow that the wheels are done, it's time to start putting it all together on the frame. \u0026nbsp;First let's run through some of the bits and pieces I have for the bike. \u0026nbsp;I mocked up the frame without the wheels to get a feel for how it would look.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca name='more'\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Ch3 style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nCockpit\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhRQMYMXhU5sxmZmy_B2PpkNCgqchYvup0KbLyQW5nHDTCTAfRPmh5RbcRjTZ4JYWrcaiQDMoUznygKPn_uEuwcRO5ORVcpKyLPustGqrvEyfj5o3iEWbFTibXR42-fFYHg6WSjakhyxT10\/s1600\/HB8230_1920x720.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"238\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhRQMYMXhU5sxmZmy_B2PpkNCgqchYvup0KbLyQW5nHDTCTAfRPmh5RbcRjTZ4JYWrcaiQDMoUznygKPn_uEuwcRO5ORVcpKyLPustGqrvEyfj5o3iEWbFTibXR42-fFYHg6WSjakhyxT10\/s640\/HB8230_1920x720.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nOne of the biggest changes I have made compared to my old setup is in the cockpit. \u0026nbsp;Instead of keeping my old bar and stem (a 42cm wide compact drop and 80mm stem) I'm moving to a flared extra wide handlebar and a longer stem. \u0026nbsp;When I was building \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/search\/label\/jackyll\"\u003Ethe tandem\u003C\/a\u003E\u0026nbsp;I bought a 46cm wide bar for it as the size and weight of the bike demands more leverage. \u0026nbsp;I got so used to this that every time I went back to my single bike it felt... a bit too narrow. \u0026nbsp;Particularly off road I felt that the 42cm bars didn't really give me much control over bumpy terrain. \u0026nbsp;After a bit of shopping around, I ended up getting the Salsa Cowbell 3 bars, these are very much a standard road bar with a 12º flare to the drops. \u0026nbsp;They are also extra wide at 46cm measured at the hoods, so at the drops they are about 52cm which is going towards MTB width. \u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjmEPBhicG753R30vslcQuOmpk4SmgKnD2DNX4kcvRXsIdqH9moNH58VvcaR1lcXzM5G0nRJeStHpYRKBMEw82tQ95S-eChaOJtPA0QuwH4fFb_jhlUezjDWdYCzv8YeOsqKMXzPlIIfFJ1\/s1600\/DSCF9175.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjmEPBhicG753R30vslcQuOmpk4SmgKnD2DNX4kcvRXsIdqH9moNH58VvcaR1lcXzM5G0nRJeStHpYRKBMEw82tQ95S-eChaOJtPA0QuwH4fFb_jhlUezjDWdYCzv8YeOsqKMXzPlIIfFJ1\/s640\/DSCF9175.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;\"\u003E\nI swapped for a 100mm stem as the reach of these bars is about 20mm shorter than my previous bars so overall the fit is about the same. \u0026nbsp;I chose the Fizik Cyrano C5 stem, nothing too fancy but reasonable weight and looks nice and feels stiff with a square section and Torx bolts on the faceplate.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiD4iqM02AAl6R2f9P0RGhHG6xADxu5PsxIQ6hEwG1PYm3dzCJvND78QU_XArLkECDrW75hZ7V5ullfmXtP_t45g_WLg-tIM2B-kzoIifJH5Olfj06x69ebFnZV5CtIg18lhS8sSTz0qJRu\/s1600\/DSCF9091.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiD4iqM02AAl6R2f9P0RGhHG6xADxu5PsxIQ6hEwG1PYm3dzCJvND78QU_XArLkECDrW75hZ7V5ullfmXtP_t45g_WLg-tIM2B-kzoIifJH5Olfj06x69ebFnZV5CtIg18lhS8sSTz0qJRu\/s640\/DSCF9091.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nFizik bar tape to match the stem. The bar tape is the tacky variety so it has a synthetic rubbery feel to it with a lot more cushion. \u0026nbsp;In the past I have always preferred more thin, less cushioned tape however I'm going to give this a go as off-road a bit more cushioning would go a long way.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgCkcOt2watxAOicRyji-fsFT9cALQScl4eqOtDlIWBjgXQ1uXRxUQ3_6ohyphenhyphenxjedDSAM5YQH0sTJ1YGCWEsxgvrV2fUCuvwwkda5P3BAaS9mOgQR4M8duR_mObMZlU054-5CdMiAXubOLKM\/s1600\/DSCF9089.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgCkcOt2watxAOicRyji-fsFT9cALQScl4eqOtDlIWBjgXQ1uXRxUQ3_6ohyphenhyphenxjedDSAM5YQH0sTJ1YGCWEsxgvrV2fUCuvwwkda5P3BAaS9mOgQR4M8duR_mObMZlU054-5CdMiAXubOLKM\/s640\/DSCF9089.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nLifeline 1.125 to 1.5\" tapered carbon headset. \u0026nbsp;This was only £20 or so, at nearly half the price of the FSA one. \u0026nbsp;It features TH Industries bearings, and these sit directly into the frame. \u0026nbsp;I mentioned before I was a little cynical about integrated headsets, however I was willing to give them a chance, time will tell! \u0026nbsp;Lifeline is the house brand of Wiggle.co.uk, still the finish on this is quite good and features carbon top caps\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nOther bits\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjIHWzwWEJqwehYrV4bkz7SqpuVp2qFi_SZ47Ih-1j3mrXBTbwCYtCHJRill_rsYJiA-UeMYzn0Mkys0UTJESfq981qOV_erwyZ7gYZ0loOB5O0CTRbEwKymwG3roujLYNGJFTgwIdieLH0\/s1600\/DSCF9101.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjIHWzwWEJqwehYrV4bkz7SqpuVp2qFi_SZ47Ih-1j3mrXBTbwCYtCHJRill_rsYJiA-UeMYzn0Mkys0UTJESfq981qOV_erwyZ7gYZ0loOB5O0CTRbEwKymwG3roujLYNGJFTgwIdieLH0\/s640\/DSCF9101.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nNow onto some carbon fibre goodies, from Procraft, a seatpost clamp and a front derailleur braze-on adaptor. \u0026nbsp; \u0026nbsp;I was a bit wary of using a derailleur clamp on the carbon tubes, so at least this one spreads out the clamping force more than the typical aluminium ones you see.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjDgnez1shI3FzoDUmGIpe_VK-uNBDIdxi5eHx7QsVOx39_Wpzwiizz-KcvX18lGdAC1POGeE3ezgKaNoh6mlDChvXFyldKk697uNxy8rVQZotSuHTlWM55lwZ0oswfhXexdkV9DTmREvIc\/s1600\/DSCF9376.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjDgnez1shI3FzoDUmGIpe_VK-uNBDIdxi5eHx7QsVOx39_Wpzwiizz-KcvX18lGdAC1POGeE3ezgKaNoh6mlDChvXFyldKk697uNxy8rVQZotSuHTlWM55lwZ0oswfhXexdkV9DTmREvIc\/s640\/DSCF9376.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;I also got a pair of carbon bottle cages too, admittedly mostly for the bling factor but also for the light weight.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgqxS3mEhKLXe5lYAfPDq03zaI3d2K0v3CgZjTzvZ3q-NCOtfD_kl83Ad5aFVOiOcShGMbHtyeULjDHvKaJ5XpW998FEhDgEm2lhglj7K4xeh9eRDIH15QfkRhiuEznh8mXLpw4oPVw-Elb\/s1600\/DSCF9377.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgqxS3mEhKLXe5lYAfPDq03zaI3d2K0v3CgZjTzvZ3q-NCOtfD_kl83Ad5aFVOiOcShGMbHtyeULjDHvKaJ5XpW998FEhDgEm2lhglj7K4xeh9eRDIH15QfkRhiuEznh8mXLpw4oPVw-Elb\/s640\/DSCF9377.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEi1q85s-GQeZbQEBLx5YsB7oNLcanxloxhQa2b_LxOH4kRU1MIlF2HhAuztnv8Zf1JB5IoAR6O4Co89XjTwe9GipL_zWwwkl1WoNQMyM7FNrDtgLOZykCBG9BLW8Tf0sndHfVA2AxPtFH3s\/s1600\/DSCF9379.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEi1q85s-GQeZbQEBLx5YsB7oNLcanxloxhQa2b_LxOH4kRU1MIlF2HhAuztnv8Zf1JB5IoAR6O4Co89XjTwe9GipL_zWwwkl1WoNQMyM7FNrDtgLOZykCBG9BLW8Tf0sndHfVA2AxPtFH3s\/s640\/DSCF9379.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nI replaced my ageing saddle bag with a Ynot tool roll. \u0026nbsp;This is made from Cordura and wraps around the saddle rails with a buckle. \u0026nbsp;Big enough to just fit a spare tube, tools, tyre levers and a tubeless patch kit. \u0026nbsp;Hopefully won't ever need to use the tube!\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3 style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nAssembly\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEi4Q4pc8aFXjn1RQ-BYs67NquvLcrhrMcD3ZHWL94EIRaDMVubUf-rvbXB30TwzBprV9l4ecFUNTekdbc_aI7OMZVKX2KGsUIqD8xIGh1Yb6OvnMIGzjgURFwFR9o3gRLDZBJCP2PqGdLzA\/s1600\/DSCF9050.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEi4Q4pc8aFXjn1RQ-BYs67NquvLcrhrMcD3ZHWL94EIRaDMVubUf-rvbXB30TwzBprV9l4ecFUNTekdbc_aI7OMZVKX2KGsUIqD8xIGh1Yb6OvnMIGzjgURFwFR9o3gRLDZBJCP2PqGdLzA\/s640\/DSCF9050.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nThankfully there wasn't really much to write about the assembly as it all went on pretty easily. \u0026nbsp;The wheels fit without any hitches and the whole drivetrain went on smoothly. \u0026nbsp;No unexpected situations popped up, the headset just dropped in and cutting the carbon fork steerer was actually quite easy, it just required a new blade and some care.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nThe only thing I did have to do differently from the past was to use a torque wrench, in particular any part which clamps onto carbon must not be overtightened, otherwise you can risk damaging the frame. \u0026nbsp;I used carbon paste on the seatpost before inserting, this helps create friction between it and the frame's seat tube to prevent it moving around as well as preventing corrosion. \u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;The internal cable routing was actually pretty easy to deal with, you can see in the picture above that there are plastic inserts which guide the derailleur cables. \u0026nbsp;There isn't any conduit for these cables inside the downtube but removing these guides makes it much easier.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjIll2LAcafbL9qkaif3K6AJSyBLyKjmpqk7X1kACt0nGfCB2zXV6qWtzO0N1xHZnLE2WKgz7jC1gcl9aeTH8Jl1y1d3x3fHQDrx-z7Klqc53mSmmsXahU6DSetwT-UkvRIS8GN4Fn00xDF\/s1600\/IMG_0653.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjIll2LAcafbL9qkaif3K6AJSyBLyKjmpqk7X1kACt0nGfCB2zXV6qWtzO0N1xHZnLE2WKgz7jC1gcl9aeTH8Jl1y1d3x3fHQDrx-z7Klqc53mSmmsXahU6DSetwT-UkvRIS8GN4Fn00xDF\/s640\/IMG_0653.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\nI took it for a quick spin in the park near where I live, and all I can say is that the difference is really noticeable. \u0026nbsp;The tyres feel amazingly supple and cushy, I think it isn't just the 40mm width but also the fact that they are tubeless. \u0026nbsp;Surprisingly, the steering feels significantly stiffer and more direct, this combined with the wider and flared drop bars makes it feel super confident descending on dirt. \u0026nbsp;I just point it in the direction I want it to go and it just plows right through most terrain. \u0026nbsp;I will have to write up my full impressions once I take it out for a proper ride. \u0026nbsp;Thanks for reading\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; 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text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjGTCT92oNZnMR8r4A7BNarVgYRYaquoFLjaAxpz30WNV2ppOhijqLqOFc8JMDVpblXIbtxMH9UgcxtynlOkTRPuQHEltfML6WI61O0Ef0l7tsym8i1PbOIj2xAbWRUJEm4sgmYqp1BVFgs\/s1600\/DSCF6230+-+2015-01-30+at+18-02-35.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjGTCT92oNZnMR8r4A7BNarVgYRYaquoFLjaAxpz30WNV2ppOhijqLqOFc8JMDVpblXIbtxMH9UgcxtynlOkTRPuQHEltfML6WI61O0Ef0l7tsym8i1PbOIj2xAbWRUJEm4sgmYqp1BVFgs\/s1600\/DSCF6230+-+2015-01-30+at+18-02-35.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nWear and tear\u003C\/h3\u003E\nOver time the cranks have slowly come to the 5-6 year old age where things start wearing out. \u0026nbsp;I knew the bearings were on their way out a while ago when \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/2015\/01\/servicing-campagnolo-ultra-torque-cranks.html\"\u003EI relubed the sealed bearings.\u003C\/a\u003E\u0026nbsp; They needed to be replaced, however this would require special tools to remove the bearings. \u0026nbsp;The Campagnolo Ultra-torque cranks are unique in that the bearing itself is attached to the crank not the bottom bracket cups like Shimano or Sram.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjOV4GKkYHgzxFY_c59zmJZsL0u2d9RhfH-xT_I1yYaGG49JCFh_z-EjQ2LG8dEAHXuOQoEk1-Uq1aaAoyve2bi3Qz0E1FhU3I4Elxo49ErCdMvoBn5-PdoBCDS8UqC3xpRrLHgA0noYE2c\/s1600\/DSCF5429+-+2014-11-11+at+21-40-20.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nOne of the consequences of this design is that you are required to use a bearing puller to remove the bearings from the spindle, you can get a dedicated one for about £50, however after doing a bit of research I found you could use a £9.50 one perfectly fine. \u0026nbsp;It is the Yato YT-2515 and only needs mild modification to the claws, they need to be filed slightly sharper to be able to fit in the gap between the crank and the bearings.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh9F6jtpVXY8gsn8uz5AOWa7f_HOAeEJxrzTh8Ld-h6bDFSZvF4LtghLNgaLnE2KhLJ3x5oK3EUzZlOuh4F7T7tlRM_iYvhIut5sNjzq54cj9YaCDNx__M6-xAkCMzY1Eej4ogEU8oAB8o-\/s1600\/DSCF9130.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh9F6jtpVXY8gsn8uz5AOWa7f_HOAeEJxrzTh8Ld-h6bDFSZvF4LtghLNgaLnE2KhLJ3x5oK3EUzZlOuh4F7T7tlRM_iYvhIut5sNjzq54cj9YaCDNx__M6-xAkCMzY1Eej4ogEU8oAB8o-\/s1600\/DSCF9130.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nSecondly you need a tool to press the bearings in place, the spindle diameter is 24mm so I used a 28.6mm pipe with an inside diameter of 25.4mm. \u0026nbsp;This allows you to hammer the bearing into place\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nThe picture above shows you what's needed:\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n- Bearing puller (Yato YT-2515 shown)\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n- Short bit of pipe with an internal diameter of 25mm or so\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n- New set of bearings (Campagnolo Part No FC-RE012)\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n- Set of Campagnolo Ultra-Torque cranks\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh2l-mZvioqIVjpesd7PwzOBCbaKaSJFbsIgW7FXE6rZ3IvrgEq1uhJeqDJIuiwJiBnuikUYOvvGUwtJMctPRqge9mIe-yqOxYbEPvEWHraKy6wg9xEzqUYg2s1qlwpARmJcfTCS1F4Mq_e\/s1600\/DSCF9124.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh2l-mZvioqIVjpesd7PwzOBCbaKaSJFbsIgW7FXE6rZ3IvrgEq1uhJeqDJIuiwJiBnuikUYOvvGUwtJMctPRqge9mIe-yqOxYbEPvEWHraKy6wg9xEzqUYg2s1qlwpARmJcfTCS1F4Mq_e\/s1600\/DSCF9124.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ch3 style=\"clear: both;\"\u003E\n1. Removing the bearings\u003C\/h3\u003E\nIf you are using the Yato puller, give the claws a slight sharpening using a file.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEidpqAvdd-r-naXZmj1o8AqFij-GyXV1SUSVgRV-CI407Y7f-lFxS6bmDOUOw9qqXl2ZkSO58lQV1CzRSPqtbqSSdLJ14r8RMiNktHnCZsawlhfY-kxJFwZsNbh3upeF47Xo83hvRhOca7y\/s1600\/DSCF9125.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEidpqAvdd-r-naXZmj1o8AqFij-GyXV1SUSVgRV-CI407Y7f-lFxS6bmDOUOw9qqXl2ZkSO58lQV1CzRSPqtbqSSdLJ14r8RMiNktHnCZsawlhfY-kxJFwZsNbh3upeF47Xo83hvRhOca7y\/s1600\/DSCF9125.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;Start with the non-drive side crank arm. \u0026nbsp;Once you can fit the claws between the gap, use a coin or similar on top of the axle stub. \u0026nbsp;Turn the puller to free the bearing, it is a press fit but should come free without too much effort.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhCLLlMCGp2sj6An2DqmDSMjF2_AJ8G4EIlD9x3wsjV7kliBjR5BHGrCHpmPNV2I72-lCD-3Gj1ut2hhWyxon9lurOGWGDWc-Q0GzSi0aJOTiE_UsD4Kd1VQ83EEf8QqN_jIV3I6e8jlgDI\/s1600\/DSCF9126.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhCLLlMCGp2sj6An2DqmDSMjF2_AJ8G4EIlD9x3wsjV7kliBjR5BHGrCHpmPNV2I72-lCD-3Gj1ut2hhWyxon9lurOGWGDWc-Q0GzSi0aJOTiE_UsD4Kd1VQ83EEf8QqN_jIV3I6e8jlgDI\/s1600\/DSCF9126.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;Ta da! \u0026nbsp;The old bearings were pretty ruined on the non-drive side as they were exposed to more gunk flicked up by the front wheel. \u0026nbsp;The black ring sits between the crankarm and the bearing giving it a bit more protection from the elements.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiljeANJWTSsaaxHf6NE0oLeOmh7NRQRgC22j-QS4RIEg6xFJoRC-zD2lB2bUJ1DtTTNDegkBeK0MMTfRwI4MfGIrhUbNYSiS-6mohyyumkkdNcvfSP1Cc63mpGP1lyJ2QqPDk4Bye_03s-\/s1600\/DSCF9127.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiljeANJWTSsaaxHf6NE0oLeOmh7NRQRgC22j-QS4RIEg6xFJoRC-zD2lB2bUJ1DtTTNDegkBeK0MMTfRwI4MfGIrhUbNYSiS-6mohyyumkkdNcvfSP1Cc63mpGP1lyJ2QqPDk4Bye_03s-\/s1600\/DSCF9127.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;Now onto the drive side cranks, these have a circlip that holds the bearing in place, this must be removed before attempting to remove the bearings.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiqGCjZJl9s2UpA9d3li8FIbRQYKVIgOeByvESFysdqxpImQPNdrd9xZVla7FgQ98NyJL_iWltLbdezzgtjdf2cMzWe8OzSXjpr6k9A3bN4FG60b20FLNCUzKipthyphenhyphenHnv68lPAD8BobZ3Lt\/s1600\/DSCF9128.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiqGCjZJl9s2UpA9d3li8FIbRQYKVIgOeByvESFysdqxpImQPNdrd9xZVla7FgQ98NyJL_iWltLbdezzgtjdf2cMzWe8OzSXjpr6k9A3bN4FG60b20FLNCUzKipthyphenhyphenHnv68lPAD8BobZ3Lt\/s1600\/DSCF9128.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\nUse the same method as on the non-driveside cranks to remove the drive side bearings.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgPh3VaNLDKr2MqnsradxbZLnxdUEVWwCNFrEQ_nQWx1uoOstv8uwz8K8vFy1M1g12K_W40cMt6Hbeh5yHffYyLKQZvdqbZXQj7glGoddahi20kdXZZk8GVJfNgWAufc4BCUdu7pZ4OXFTS\/s1600\/DSCF9129.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgPh3VaNLDKr2MqnsradxbZLnxdUEVWwCNFrEQ_nQWx1uoOstv8uwz8K8vFy1M1g12K_W40cMt6Hbeh5yHffYyLKQZvdqbZXQj7glGoddahi20kdXZZk8GVJfNgWAufc4BCUdu7pZ4OXFTS\/s1600\/DSCF9129.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nAll clear! Now onto the next step...\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjUKQ-qdRhfd9whQAvc9UvpyZr2lsVLB4chyphenhypheng53qdLJjgX5uwVyMy34IEMvHg6I4XtPcGcm7MoZh_qmKfP70JbbUO5lT-5UDaxTxsPfH4eStAb8zOAY9bN9ddpth6GBTDZpNMvQYLNgWKH3\/s1600\/DSCF9131.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjUKQ-qdRhfd9whQAvc9UvpyZr2lsVLB4chyphenhypheng53qdLJjgX5uwVyMy34IEMvHg6I4XtPcGcm7MoZh_qmKfP70JbbUO5lT-5UDaxTxsPfH4eStAb8zOAY9bN9ddpth6GBTDZpNMvQYLNgWKH3\/s1600\/DSCF9131.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\n2. Installing the bearings\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nNow you have the bare cranks, give the bearing surface a little bit of grease, then slip over the black dust seal making sure it is seated properly and clear of the bearing seat.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhdOxFmg5Doe-0zGM4pgk8ZQ7ANUMrzh-WA32PYRx2FNKO7Rs0asg9C2KK5xmmLV8eWgDMJZNvbGKTsIiK-yZ1JtI3Tjt1cJ-nb4-hF4924VStiEchZLTFxGs4TP7hwkYhxJLip4ahg3SQn\/s1600\/DSCF9134.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhdOxFmg5Doe-0zGM4pgk8ZQ7ANUMrzh-WA32PYRx2FNKO7Rs0asg9C2KK5xmmLV8eWgDMJZNvbGKTsIiK-yZ1JtI3Tjt1cJ-nb4-hF4924VStiEchZLTFxGs4TP7hwkYhxJLip4ahg3SQn\/s1600\/DSCF9134.jpg\" width=\"425\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nPlace the new bearing onto the axle and place the 25mm ID pipe over the bearing, using a mallet or similar tap the bearing into place until it is seated properly.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiRyZgp1eIa0wf78HSpTf2TyRNMFllRHoNiWC3dMcma2Twv_0DqrUZOGwginNY9IyGcMHnlTRfUT6YZhZlVUo7ELN-_VvbnPbFVIVNB6DEdhb2Qvz00DAQd7Fv115fSWU_MU0TeHbE7M2Yw\/s1600\/DSCF9135.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiRyZgp1eIa0wf78HSpTf2TyRNMFllRHoNiWC3dMcma2Twv_0DqrUZOGwginNY9IyGcMHnlTRfUT6YZhZlVUo7ELN-_VvbnPbFVIVNB6DEdhb2Qvz00DAQd7Fv115fSWU_MU0TeHbE7M2Yw\/s1600\/DSCF9135.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjuXcPujSeUW01_Atq2tEiuY0NL4DjFiPG9EKKqfUSTtdcVnSZxoyieBSBg6ONfh1V8x3XkKS71t61jZaILSFUAo9t67MUut9VkQhQ6nb3fwi4ycheI7281SROwYr3SUTKmf2AGOIPNiv8_\/s1600\/DSCF9136.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjuXcPujSeUW01_Atq2tEiuY0NL4DjFiPG9EKKqfUSTtdcVnSZxoyieBSBg6ONfh1V8x3XkKS71t61jZaILSFUAo9t67MUut9VkQhQ6nb3fwi4ycheI7281SROwYr3SUTKmf2AGOIPNiv8_\/s1600\/DSCF9136.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;Repeat the same process with the drive side cranks, don't forget to replace the circlip on this side!\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEieVFSun4ZbrZxZgJlgtLTU0td7GghztssAJYlVhzsKg7YJVmMlxSqtFwjUJrJaDSm1xIQ316ckMf9znPWccuVdVj9aWfd3FoFNgIGOLS_3pRQGtOlCd02Q9Y1EBQD_I-CG8Tm2npk9U-jX\/s1600\/DSCF9137.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEieVFSun4ZbrZxZgJlgtLTU0td7GghztssAJYlVhzsKg7YJVmMlxSqtFwjUJrJaDSm1xIQ316ckMf9znPWccuVdVj9aWfd3FoFNgIGOLS_3pRQGtOlCd02Q9Y1EBQD_I-CG8Tm2npk9U-jX\/s1600\/DSCF9137.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nAll done! \u0026nbsp;Now the bearings are done the cranks are ready for action. \u0026nbsp;Thanks for reading.\u003C\/div\u003E\n"},"link":[{"rel":"replies","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/feeds\/431833739782937769\/comments\/default","title":"Post Comments"},{"rel":"replies","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/2016\/11\/bish-bash-bosh-part-5-campagnolo.html#comment-form","title":"2 Comments"},{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/1318315606520498015\/posts\/default\/431833739782937769"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/1318315606520498015\/posts\/default\/431833739782937769"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/2016\/11\/bish-bash-bosh-part-5-campagnolo.html","title":"Bish Bash Bosh Part 5: Campagnolo crankset bearing overhaul"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Smut Pedaller"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/05939627997312788346"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"33","height":"30","src":"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_8wbLBACjkVk\/THEfqDSs-5I\/AAAAAAAAALE\/wGfOiDm05kU\/S220\/Screen+shot+2010-08-22+at+11.00.00+.png"}}],"media$thumbnail":{"xmlns$media":"http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/","url":"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjGTCT92oNZnMR8r4A7BNarVgYRYaquoFLjaAxpz30WNV2ppOhijqLqOFc8JMDVpblXIbtxMH9UgcxtynlOkTRPuQHEltfML6WI61O0Ef0l7tsym8i1PbOIj2xAbWRUJEm4sgmYqp1BVFgs\/s72-c\/DSCF6230+-+2015-01-30+at+18-02-35.jpg","height":"72","width":"72"},"thr$total":{"$t":"2"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1318315606520498015.post-5289797587591412906"},"published":{"$t":"2016-11-02T23:29:00.000+00:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2016-11-17T00:15:28.701+00:00"},"category":[{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"betty"},{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"bike builds"},{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"tubeless"}],"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Bish Bash Bosh Part 4: Building wheels"},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh4gtuxJ87WzKantb64FWYYsJrmwDxEn8v1Kp9R86qNupUbijP4gaPgq9Qe9Xw0CUY0lbY5nFtdKGXgnBV2RmJzdIPlhko8tTxDZ8Y5P2PGc0odcxV7-UbdmknYE-3PZ4fsor_er7BXKgBz\/s1600\/DSCF9102.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh4gtuxJ87WzKantb64FWYYsJrmwDxEn8v1Kp9R86qNupUbijP4gaPgq9Qe9Xw0CUY0lbY5nFtdKGXgnBV2RmJzdIPlhko8tTxDZ8Y5P2PGc0odcxV7-UbdmknYE-3PZ4fsor_er7BXKgBz\/s1600\/DSCF9102.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nNow one of the most important elements of the bike are the wheels, particularly if they are handbuilt they can be one of the most single time consuming tasks. \u0026nbsp;I've build about 6 sets of wheels at this point, all without a spoke tension meter. \u0026nbsp;I however spotted the Park TM-1 Tension meter on special for £35 which is about 1\/2 price so I just went ahead and got it. \u0026nbsp;Also for good measure I bought a torque wrench as well as the Bish Bash Bosh frame is carbon and you should be very careful not to overtighten fasteners or risk damaging it.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca name='more'\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Ch3\u003E\nSpokes\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nPreviously I discussed the hub and rim choice for the build, the missing part from this was the spoke choice. \u0026nbsp;This is one reason why I like building my own wheels, you get to chose every single part of the build to perfectly suit your needs. \u0026nbsp;Previously I have used double butted spokes. \u0026nbsp;Double butted spokes are thicker at the ends and thinner in the middle to put material where it is needed. \u0026nbsp;Not only are they typically lighter but they also have a bit more give so can actually build a more resilient wheel. Previously I have used DT Swiss competition which are a double butted 2.0\/1.8mm spoke. \u0026nbsp;These are readily available, reasonably light and strong. \u0026nbsp;They are an almost standard spoke to use. \u0026nbsp;However this time, as I was hell bent on a sub 9kg bike I had to go that little bit further...\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhuyJmtHmyAT3L105xjGYZRQcQzLqDelgGhCfxcsdJmmiO92bPr__nYim-uYGKXXnhoxGkNO_2U1mEyh7i4vUuSzrk5qF3g6cJcwr4gjtbQ0uwFFQt064dKLgKLm1jZqoYGY3s3U4PqgFdZ\/s1600\/DSCF9228.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhuyJmtHmyAT3L105xjGYZRQcQzLqDelgGhCfxcsdJmmiO92bPr__nYim-uYGKXXnhoxGkNO_2U1mEyh7i4vUuSzrk5qF3g6cJcwr4gjtbQ0uwFFQt064dKLgKLm1jZqoYGY3s3U4PqgFdZ\/s1600\/DSCF9228.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nI looked into the DT Revolution spokes, however at 1.5mm thick at the centres I've read that they aren't the strongest or stiffest spokes, also their price is significantly more. \u0026nbsp;Alternatively I looked at Sapim spokes, the CX-Ray is a popular high performance spoke which is both light and aerodynamic, however they are also extremely expensive. \u0026nbsp;The Laser is also a similar price but similar to the DT Revolution. \u0026nbsp;However there was the Sapim D-Light which is somewhere in between these, it's a double butted spoke which is 2.0\/1.65mm. \u0026nbsp;What kind of weight difference is there? \u0026nbsp;Well compared to a standard 2.0\/1.8mm spoke the Sapim D-Lights would save about 80g on the wheelset which isn't insignificant. \u0026nbsp;Also importantly, they aren't much more expensive either so why not? \u0026nbsp;I'd never used Sapim spokes either, I'd always used DT Swiss in the past. \u0026nbsp;I did however use the Sapim Race 2.0\/1.8mm spokes on the drive side rear with the D-Lights\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;Spoke nipples form the crucial function of not only connecting the end of the spoke with the rim but also facilitating the truing and tensioning of the wheel during the build and in the future. \u0026nbsp;Alloy nipples have a reputation for rounding out more easily as well as tending to seize due to corrosion. \u0026nbsp;They are marginally lighter however I generally prefer brass nipples for the serviciability and durability. \u0026nbsp;Luckily the D-Lights shipped with Sapim brass nipples. \u0026nbsp; One note though, was that compared to DT Swiss nipples, I found there was noticeable variation in their fit. \u0026nbsp;I had trouble fitting the Park Tool spoke wrench I had over some of the Sapim nipples, some were perfectly fine. \u0026nbsp;The same spoke wrench never had any problems with the DT Swiss nipples I used in the past.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3 style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nThe build\u003C\/h3\u003E\nThe great thing about the rims I discussed previously is that they are asymmetric, this helps a lot with both disc braked front wheels and 11-speed rear wheels. \u0026nbsp;A strong wheel is built not by strong components alone, but by a careful build as well as a good balanced, even tension in the spokes. \u0026nbsp;Over the decades as wheels have gained more speeds, the amount of uneven offset from drive side to non-drive side has increased significantly. \u0026nbsp;Enough so that it isn't unusual to see a rear wheel have 50% less tension on the non-drive side to balance it.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhdP-CfetJziw-9fvpiAsQOjYOXU-j0IcP4Z9lbLPyR6Uvy6tRz1Ab2iAmjyvaKpsvUkdIbUaI4fa9tA7oZrNpU3N2Ph46P4q8cwFKR6ajbOYgyaQGBORMpgqSw3NTmXS_9JQ0u8Pz6nU3J\/s1600\/offset-asymmetry-rims-features-spec_22.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"486\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhdP-CfetJziw-9fvpiAsQOjYOXU-j0IcP4Z9lbLPyR6Uvy6tRz1Ab2iAmjyvaKpsvUkdIbUaI4fa9tA7oZrNpU3N2Ph46P4q8cwFKR6ajbOYgyaQGBORMpgqSw3NTmXS_9JQ0u8Pz6nU3J\/s1600\/offset-asymmetry-rims-features-spec_22.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nYou can see in the picture above the difference an asymmetric rim makes, essentially the bracing angle of the spoke is closer to being symmetrical which means spoke tensions can be closer to even on either side of the wheel. The BOR XMD-366 rims I am using have a 1.4mm offset, on the rear it will be offset to the non-drive side and on the front disc wheel it will be offset to the drive side.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nBefore ordering my spokes I have to plug the dimensions of my rims and hubs to figure out what length I have to order, the calculator I use also gives you the theoretical spoke tension difference between drive and non-drive. \u0026nbsp;Using the dimensions I input, the front wheel has drive side spokes at 88% of the non-drive and the rear has non-drive side spokes at 62%. \u0026nbsp;If I had used a symmetric rim the figures would be 80% and 56% respectively.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhOx2HNwUoDhgCDHhsxhhqf4MUldwCQSaVS0loJa0iQdvGcTZA7QJfs00W8UVb1QcCWlc7og_VOI6GVxZGpAQYYOtYuNvoIHbh5S9yW4BS_69UF4d4H4uQgIeVIqFQs6I9y4ADWPhan1z1W\/s1600\/DSCF9143.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhOx2HNwUoDhgCDHhsxhhqf4MUldwCQSaVS0loJa0iQdvGcTZA7QJfs00W8UVb1QcCWlc7og_VOI6GVxZGpAQYYOtYuNvoIHbh5S9yW4BS_69UF4d4H4uQgIeVIqFQs6I9y4ADWPhan1z1W\/s1600\/DSCF9143.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiNoyMrewIw-NHrGqjq2Gn1GuIWjiGaZcDRxMfgMLvume6Gur0MQ9TTuazogBUSu-G-xgApkcJkzJ3aDH5pH3J-aiGFmJ7m52VdBF67zofQtSj7VYimsZzEp7cVQ7kU92x94G0D5YDeGfwg\/s1600\/DSCF9144.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiNoyMrewIw-NHrGqjq2Gn1GuIWjiGaZcDRxMfgMLvume6Gur0MQ9TTuazogBUSu-G-xgApkcJkzJ3aDH5pH3J-aiGFmJ7m52VdBF67zofQtSj7VYimsZzEp7cVQ7kU92x94G0D5YDeGfwg\/s1600\/DSCF9144.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiyqowDA2PvDXzLvLJ5WB-jwCSicklbcdxrA4MndW0hlyp6CZ_ga7jlr675K-owTZZ4KAXdZSgQkGFPDXUaZmXqhgnl7QhgBTI9gLCLXQgEtOMjW82PZGGrE7scvWQb5Q3GY3dwNico8GGq\/s1600\/DSCF9145.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiyqowDA2PvDXzLvLJ5WB-jwCSicklbcdxrA4MndW0hlyp6CZ_ga7jlr675K-owTZZ4KAXdZSgQkGFPDXUaZmXqhgnl7QhgBTI9gLCLXQgEtOMjW82PZGGrE7scvWQb5Q3GY3dwNico8GGq\/s1600\/DSCF9145.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nI laced the wheels 3x front and back which is pretty standard for disc brake builds. \u0026nbsp;For those with a keen eye, I've laced the wheels with the leading spokes on the inside, which I realised after and reversed so they were on the outside. \u0026nbsp;This doesn't make a huge difference in reality, however having the leading spokes on the outside for a disc brake wheel means that under braking, the spokes being loaded are also the ones with the elbows on the outside and are thus stronger.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhJcAsXoYj9aZ7jzK16ja-oI2g3qm891dWy0SCfIsxiW7RxQv7mxtTzURCEPZlHo6ss_aXU1FzTKo6jCFnY2x_tYfN_b7jh6CR-sMf_gK9P1qQOWwtgj9-BPh7H5bMaouSGw-xWxl1dYx1H\/s1600\/DSCF9147.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhJcAsXoYj9aZ7jzK16ja-oI2g3qm891dWy0SCfIsxiW7RxQv7mxtTzURCEPZlHo6ss_aXU1FzTKo6jCFnY2x_tYfN_b7jh6CR-sMf_gK9P1qQOWwtgj9-BPh7H5bMaouSGw-xWxl1dYx1H\/s1600\/DSCF9147.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nWeight including quick release and adaptor is 1,103g, without it is 1,009g which is pretty good for a 32h dynamo disc braked hub.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhmhCIXVGVB9BFLHnUbWJofAkRcraSo_OPYXYBjSNfIea_vGqyBL3o1KubiWi-oiaKEowVw76_5mpAHytcjgAxSV0QgZSnRcZMWH0tZisUvUVIjild7y6KtXZnA6ESW_sjvjtScsdMuWkgx\/s1600\/DSCF9148.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhmhCIXVGVB9BFLHnUbWJofAkRcraSo_OPYXYBjSNfIea_vGqyBL3o1KubiWi-oiaKEowVw76_5mpAHytcjgAxSV0QgZSnRcZMWH0tZisUvUVIjild7y6KtXZnA6ESW_sjvjtScsdMuWkgx\/s1600\/DSCF9148.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nThe rear came in at 867g for a total weight of 1,876g which is about 330g lighter than the \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/2013\/12\/project-phil-part-2-wheels.html\"\u003Eset I built for Phil\u003C\/a\u003E which is a similar build. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3 style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nTubeless install and final tensioning\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiWscsot5Qc8ERUuyMN3MDhLNAMxbXXAY6jbcO0oOCInTFrT6XktXzswUz5ucATewyn0cqEHiED6xAzsfRDlOTdlUAOPklA6zTrYF02IW0cuE6ThLzUCqQxUNOAqHGXqK8iDWo6FsXJMbSL\/s1600\/DSCF9150.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiWscsot5Qc8ERUuyMN3MDhLNAMxbXXAY6jbcO0oOCInTFrT6XktXzswUz5ucATewyn0cqEHiED6xAzsfRDlOTdlUAOPklA6zTrYF02IW0cuE6ThLzUCqQxUNOAqHGXqK8iDWo6FsXJMbSL\/s1600\/DSCF9150.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nThe next step after tensioning was installing the tubeless tape. \u0026nbsp;Initially I used a 5m roll of BOR branded tubeless tape, pressing it down into the channel making sure there were no bubbles, overlapping the tape around the valve hole about 15cm either side. \u0026nbsp;I managed to install the Maxxis Ramblers on quite easily with a little soap and water, the beads popped into the rim hook very quickly with just a track pump. \u0026nbsp;The rear wheel sealed quite nicely only losing a few psi over night with no sealant. \u0026nbsp;The front wheel however would not seal properly, I ended up retaping this one with Stans tape and it was fine. \u0026nbsp;A trick I found was to put a little bit of sealant around the valve when inserting it in the valve hole.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgkf3t9389nFzc2uztcOE1UZlmoqDB2ko3Qg942ITF_-byqWfJ5PNqH3hvJ3elWG9CcjyT4tN3IeBFzvCCJVwGwgoojhDLjMLp7BnWTOsxbOSUoo2ECfDGe4Wr-YHaMNd0suNa-xS_-dYD9\/s1600\/DSCF9151.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgkf3t9389nFzc2uztcOE1UZlmoqDB2ko3Qg942ITF_-byqWfJ5PNqH3hvJ3elWG9CcjyT4tN3IeBFzvCCJVwGwgoojhDLjMLp7BnWTOsxbOSUoo2ECfDGe4Wr-YHaMNd0suNa-xS_-dYD9\/s1600\/DSCF9151.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nOne thing I did read about was that tubeless road tyres with carbon beads like the Maxxis Ramblers have a noticeable effect on spoke tension. \u0026nbsp;Apparently the carbon beads are so tight they compress the rim and reduce the spoke tension, requiring a tightening up to get it back up to normal. \u0026nbsp;I measured it using my Park TM-1 and found it dropped about 20kgf.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgwmxhPQIlglKFm9C5KZ1822d4Nx1aXSjI4BJ_EC5UUiXCYsKqO-TXK_53_SXrxg_HpHaV3JSOPH0BLbkb1aliparrmNQciCJMDOrBSKlJpI8FlHovMUkluLpDSXD3cKQnDZTKOKXAJ20kA\/s1600\/DSCF9153.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgwmxhPQIlglKFm9C5KZ1822d4Nx1aXSjI4BJ_EC5UUiXCYsKqO-TXK_53_SXrxg_HpHaV3JSOPH0BLbkb1aliparrmNQciCJMDOrBSKlJpI8FlHovMUkluLpDSXD3cKQnDZTKOKXAJ20kA\/s1600\/DSCF9153.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nSpeaking of the Park TM-1 Tension meter, I've found this tool almost invaluable. \u0026nbsp;The ability to systematically sample and record the tension of every spoke means you can straight away get an overall picture of the tension in the wheel. \u0026nbsp;The TM-1 is a very simple tool which has three pins which push against a spring giving a readout from which you convert on a chart. \u0026nbsp; It's likely not the most accurate tool, however it is still much better than just guessing from tones. \u0026nbsp;Also Park Tool has a web app called\u0026nbsp;\u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/www.parktool.com\/wta\"\u003EWheel Tension App\u003C\/a\u003E\u0026nbsp;which you can put your readings into, it then converts the readings into kgf and gives you an illustration of the whole wheel tension.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgKdpp2stMPUr6vsWpPClQDwhmractlMKpM2hm3s6mQbBHgE27xvk9gXNCvs3dn3031Dz-sjOvxJ3WM5kFu8VCYn0yMRypXm0baHdS2qHFNRADRfvjAFnjZsbZvJE4neryLmIt3G6ZvECzX\/s1600\/Screen+Shot+2016-10-29+at+01.32.51.png\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgKdpp2stMPUr6vsWpPClQDwhmractlMKpM2hm3s6mQbBHgE27xvk9gXNCvs3dn3031Dz-sjOvxJ3WM5kFu8VCYn0yMRypXm0baHdS2qHFNRADRfvjAFnjZsbZvJE4neryLmIt3G6ZvECzX\/s1600\/Screen+Shot+2016-10-29+at+01.32.51.png\" width=\"632\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhX0UW7-y9FbZGDi6xM2fgH-av0XdtujRp89MXFTAYq_nS5Vn7SAmIkcdoRrtMonzp45AhzUiCKCCM3t8B5gB1ilwOAGHcUCKG16usouXQdqUZtPmhF6LmmDybs70kIozrwqW9hF-xBs4SZ\/s1600\/Screen+Shot+2016-10-29+at+01.32.57.png\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhX0UW7-y9FbZGDi6xM2fgH-av0XdtujRp89MXFTAYq_nS5Vn7SAmIkcdoRrtMonzp45AhzUiCKCCM3t8B5gB1ilwOAGHcUCKG16usouXQdqUZtPmhF6LmmDybs70kIozrwqW9hF-xBs4SZ\/s1600\/Screen+Shot+2016-10-29+at+01.32.57.png\" width=\"490\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nI found this extremely useful as you can be extremely systematic about the wheelbuild, previously I would obsess about getting the wheel straight, however with this tension meter and the app I was able to both balance the tension as well as straighten the wheel.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nIn the end the spoke tension I eventually reached was 117\/102kgf on the front and 81\/127kgf on the rear wheel non-drive\/drive respectively. \u0026nbsp;The tension differences were pretty much spot on from what I had calculated beforehand.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nNow the wheels are done there are still the brakes, drivetrain and other bits and bobs to do. \u0026nbsp;Thanks for reading.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/2016\/11\/bish-bash-bosh-part-5-campagnolo.html\"\u003EContinued in Part 5\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n"},"link":[{"rel":"replies","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/feeds\/5289797587591412906\/comments\/default","title":"Post Comments"},{"rel":"replies","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/2016\/11\/bish-bash-bosh-part-4-building-wheels.html#comment-form","title":"0 Comments"},{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/1318315606520498015\/posts\/default\/5289797587591412906"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/1318315606520498015\/posts\/default\/5289797587591412906"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/2016\/11\/bish-bash-bosh-part-4-building-wheels.html","title":"Bish Bash Bosh Part 4: Building wheels"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Smut Pedaller"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/05939627997312788346"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"33","height":"30","src":"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_8wbLBACjkVk\/THEfqDSs-5I\/AAAAAAAAALE\/wGfOiDm05kU\/S220\/Screen+shot+2010-08-22+at+11.00.00+.png"}}],"media$thumbnail":{"xmlns$media":"http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/","url":"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh4gtuxJ87WzKantb64FWYYsJrmwDxEn8v1Kp9R86qNupUbijP4gaPgq9Qe9Xw0CUY0lbY5nFtdKGXgnBV2RmJzdIPlhko8tTxDZ8Y5P2PGc0odcxV7-UbdmknYE-3PZ4fsor_er7BXKgBz\/s72-c\/DSCF9102.jpg","height":"72","width":"72"},"thr$total":{"$t":"0"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1318315606520498015.post-2926575289295464233"},"published":{"$t":"2016-10-28T22:03:00.000+01:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2016-10-28T22:04:35.078+01:00"},"category":[{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"betty"},{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"bike builds"},{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"tubeless"}],"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Bish Bash Bosh Part 3: Rims and hubs"},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nFollowing on from the \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/2016\/10\/bish-bash-bosh-part-2-tyres.html\"\u003Eprevious part\u003C\/a\u003E where I talked about tyres, this chapter covers the wheel components. \u0026nbsp;I normally choose the rims and hubs first so I can measure them to then be able to order the correct length of spokes. \u0026nbsp;The intent of this build is a 1,800g dynamo hub disc wheelset which is tubeless compatible and with a wide profile to better support the tyres I want to run.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh-G8zXFEDi-_RwgoJZDIjBPxC6Ww1Lq4GohZ_rb_GgSSfUbvqhCqBDXfINZ8wFTmzNDg7FN7up6wIgJrTcXqJaSwRwgfCSozfPaeZVbPhOMvxHORPqSUfccShAVVi2Zp_JnWwHch5dBeZQ\/s1600\/DSCF9115.jpg\" style=\"color: #0000ee; text-align: center;\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nRims\u003C\/h3\u003E\nThe rims had to serve several criteria, they needed to be tubeless compatible, lighter than what I used before on \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/2013\/12\/project-phil-part-2-wheels.html\"\u003EPhil\u003C\/a\u003E\u0026nbsp;and preferably meant for disc brakes (no brake track). \u0026nbsp;The rims I considered were Stans Crest, Velocity Ailerons and DT Swiss RR411. \u0026nbsp;However each of these had a compromise, the Stans Crest had a reputation for being light but a bit too fragile, the ailerons were a bit too heavy and the DT Swiss were a little too narrow at 19mm internally.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nEventually I stumbled upon a brand I never heard of before at a German bike shop website. \u0026nbsp;\u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/bor-germany.de\/en\"\u003EBOR Germany\u003C\/a\u003E\u0026nbsp;is a wheel\/rim manufacturer not well known outside of continental Europe but used often by pro racers. \u0026nbsp;They are not cheap however they are very light and they have lots of great features such as eyelets, tubeless compatibility and asymmetric spoke holes. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nEyelets are seldom seen on many modern racing rims but they help distribute the load from the spoke nipple which prevents cracking, the asymmetric holes help build a stronger wheel by creating a more evenly dished wheel. \u0026nbsp;I went with the\u0026nbsp;\u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/bor-germany.de\/en\/product\/129-xmd366-29er-380-g\"\u003EXMD-366 29er\u003C\/a\u003E\u0026nbsp;model which is meant for XC riding. \u0026nbsp;At 380g they are on par with the Stans Crest and about 100g lighter than the H Plus Son Archetypes I used before! \u0026nbsp;The width is 21mm internally which should give a more supportive base for wider tyres.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjGIrySP4-jzotpI4Kx-rHflvLJZv8mypGtg7dM91AB46QWMr0HBI-wg35CLcXs7SAcux-qMY2ULMoM66i1Z-zVLv52NTSfW9ioKyHzlFCaWNF0hyphenhyphenH_p4OVq_Gyp0rTn9ULo0kf9viU13dk\/s1600\/DSCF9113.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjGIrySP4-jzotpI4Kx-rHflvLJZv8mypGtg7dM91AB46QWMr0HBI-wg35CLcXs7SAcux-qMY2ULMoM66i1Z-zVLv52NTSfW9ioKyHzlFCaWNF0hyphenhyphenH_p4OVq_Gyp0rTn9ULo0kf9viU13dk\/s1600\/DSCF9113.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nThey are quite pricey at 99€ per rim however I managed to find them for 70€ each, although with the plunging value of the £ this is still expensive. \u0026nbsp;Nonetheless despite the seller sending me one wrong rim, I got a pair of them eventually. \u0026nbsp;They came in at exactly 380g which is extremely light and comparable with carbon fibre rims!\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhI7WTTRjMjB7M_aI3z0f6lGtaVS7AcB9skd68IeI6EpkS4Ij215I-V2fpOJsqWUqJNDoHyYOjpGR7TXhdenz8rhehbS67kigVcvOqEZHU8DCTOSm6x-sYQz3ppbarAFP9tHv8Uvl4R3PHq\/s1600\/DSCF9112.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhI7WTTRjMjB7M_aI3z0f6lGtaVS7AcB9skd68IeI6EpkS4Ij215I-V2fpOJsqWUqJNDoHyYOjpGR7TXhdenz8rhehbS67kigVcvOqEZHU8DCTOSm6x-sYQz3ppbarAFP9tHv8Uvl4R3PHq\/s1600\/DSCF9112.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nThe construction is beautiful, very nicely finished with a subtle laser etched logo on them. \u0026nbsp;The valve hole somewhat misleadingly says\u0026nbsp;\u003Ci\u003EMax pressure 3.0bar\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/i\u003Edespite their website saying it could handle about 5.0bar (~80psi). \u0026nbsp;I emailed BOR about this and they confirmed that the 3.0bar warning only applies to very wide tyres and that 5.0bar was fine for narrower tyres. \u0026nbsp;Surprisingly the rims are not welded at the joint but instead are pinned\/sleeved, however the joint appears to be of very high quality as I could barely see it compared to other pinned\/sleeved rims I've seen before. \u0026nbsp;Typically a lot of manufacturers use welding at the joint of the rim as it creates a seamless appearance, this is also usually used on more high end rims as well. \u0026nbsp;However what I've read is that in practice it makes no difference.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEga4JMBBEkeWrjetzBIPVdCQD2FjzCSMM10BjOkLDW3w0sbEfcd6Ji5_fmXX3ExQNaAAQ9tXVu9HBJjL_mFX2XNe9lqoyhBXbPmTRBv64e9L7FVeLywr-Hwg9a8MxpaJS9WY139pQmLBu4D\/s1600\/DSCF9103.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEga4JMBBEkeWrjetzBIPVdCQD2FjzCSMM10BjOkLDW3w0sbEfcd6Ji5_fmXX3ExQNaAAQ9tXVu9HBJjL_mFX2XNe9lqoyhBXbPmTRBv64e9L7FVeLywr-Hwg9a8MxpaJS9WY139pQmLBu4D\/s1600\/DSCF9103.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiUQ9s52PuLsTBDvlWdycM0BNa2uJsRbOBLtIygB8dM4YJbVXUAJxboQ3j4f5bqrD5QjkQ8fTMAz4DM-cKG8jOAeXFZZFKnVfOWONUYsGlaZDnI8ovYFLvMay3KS_g0FN66l6NdFGLilUDi\/s1600\/DSCF9105.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiUQ9s52PuLsTBDvlWdycM0BNa2uJsRbOBLtIygB8dM4YJbVXUAJxboQ3j4f5bqrD5QjkQ8fTMAz4DM-cKG8jOAeXFZZFKnVfOWONUYsGlaZDnI8ovYFLvMay3KS_g0FN66l6NdFGLilUDi\/s1600\/DSCF9105.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nThey came more or less bang on 380g for both rims, again the quality of these rims is fantastic... I guess you get what you pay for.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nHubs\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nThe hub choice came down to several factors. \u0026nbsp;As the frame utilises a 15 x 100mm thru axle on the front and a 12 x 142mm thru axle on the rear\u0026nbsp;(standard on better MTB's). Both hubs would need to be compatible with this. \u0026nbsp;The hubs also needed to have mounts for disc brakes and the rear hub would need to be 11-speed road compatible. \u0026nbsp;Lastly the front hub would have to be a dynamo hub.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nThe front hub was a relatively easy choice as there are only really two dynamo hubs on the market that are compatible with a 15mm thru axle, there is the\u0026nbsp;\u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/www.nabendynamo.de\/produkte\/son_28_15_en.html\"\u003ESON 28 15 disc\u003C\/a\u003E and the SP Dynamo PD8X. \u0026nbsp;The SON model, as with all their hubs is very expensive at about 270€, the SP Dynamo is about €120 or so... less than half the price but still quite expensive. \u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\nFunnily enough the SON dynamo is not only twice the price but also weighs 40g more. \u0026nbsp;The SP-PD8X Dynamo hub came in at a light 423g and also comes with a 9mm quick release adaptor axle.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh7bT0P32flDvEGqYuH-V9XaUFKt3kjwT9dsCARYcjlba5F_a8ymbB4ho__xnblfYUVPN9rq3BstJHGv258KRZAX8WaRTFMOvtcPeYGbAvDgWBbh8a4KVuHy0IXprxpeBZ2LolrZFNR5U2P\/s1600\/DSCF9099.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh7bT0P32flDvEGqYuH-V9XaUFKt3kjwT9dsCARYcjlba5F_a8ymbB4ho__xnblfYUVPN9rq3BstJHGv258KRZAX8WaRTFMOvtcPeYGbAvDgWBbh8a4KVuHy0IXprxpeBZ2LolrZFNR5U2P\/s1600\/DSCF9099.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhCllbsT-fMUJwfIpqwwsKhQ6umOIf7GRgTLYBHJ3DFI5hSwrgazJkMKKdajzFT6aea6T5F1-z5GuYvpOo9giftEcrr2pIYoAtDGO5Uo2zgi4lUsLcVkzg4wacRhYOqDjeQe9Xzpt27-N3j\/s1600\/DSCF9094.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhCllbsT-fMUJwfIpqwwsKhQ6umOIf7GRgTLYBHJ3DFI5hSwrgazJkMKKdajzFT6aea6T5F1-z5GuYvpOo9giftEcrr2pIYoAtDGO5Uo2zgi4lUsLcVkzg4wacRhYOqDjeQe9Xzpt27-N3j\/s1600\/DSCF9094.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\nThe rear hub is the same brand as what I went with before, Novatec. \u0026nbsp;They are one of the larger OEM manufacturers of hubs in Taiwan and make lots of hubs which are then rebranded, they also make their own branded line of hubs which are generally very good value and very light. \u0026nbsp;I chose the D772SB which like the front hub is also able to be converted to 9mm quick release. \u0026nbsp; It's 11 speed compatible and features 4 sealed bearings, very similar to the \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/2013\/12\/project-phil-part-2-wheels.html\"\u003ED712SB that I used before\u003C\/a\u003E. \u0026nbsp;I dug around for a while and eventually found it in a not so common matte black finish which matches the front.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiHsancR_GhNK9KaB8kFjvfJ3M68HJDkA-P3A_XwJdv1720H5tAtINZj8aO4tikfq08rLm9kMPMWB9OS9brVT0RbE6JQQqbgAtr4k-yIpFx8p4WJIvZz-eRo6a5hPjwjdt2kub3mV8NcHoG\/s1600\/DSCF9116.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" 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width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nNext part I'll cover the wheelbuild itself when I put these bits together with some spokes, thanks for reading!\u003C\/div\u003E\n"},"link":[{"rel":"replies","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/feeds\/2926575289295464233\/comments\/default","title":"Post Comments"},{"rel":"replies","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/bish-bash-bosh-part-3-rims-and-hubs.html#comment-form","title":"2 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builds"},{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"tubeless"}],"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Bish Bash Bosh Part 2: Tyres"},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEg37Nk3V5iP7mi2d5Jv7uO77qXc9W_6xJP3Ib3HP9xZZT8YT927qp3_UUekC3GnUn6VCdBQmJLFKgEz7N3TTtOFySPagIof7BBcZDsBBSZD3y27URuE9gH4oB_lyaciqpd2EunK38O49AyA\/s1600\/DSCF9157.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEg37Nk3V5iP7mi2d5Jv7uO77qXc9W_6xJP3Ib3HP9xZZT8YT927qp3_UUekC3GnUn6VCdBQmJLFKgEz7N3TTtOFySPagIof7BBcZDsBBSZD3y27URuE9gH4oB_lyaciqpd2EunK38O49AyA\/s1600\/DSCF9157.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nProbably one of the most important components on a bike or any road going vehicle for that matter are the tyres. \u0026nbsp;They are the sole part of the bike that interfaces with the ground and can absolutely make or break the feel of the bike. \u0026nbsp;Previously I had run 30mm wide slick\u0026nbsp;\u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/2014\/06\/tyre-review-challenge-strada-bianca.html\"\u003EChallenge Strada Biancas\u003C\/a\u003E\u0026nbsp;for road\u0026nbsp;and 35mm Schwalbe Smart Sams for off-road duties which barely fit the frame. \u0026nbsp;The Strada Biancas were fantastic tyres, extremely supple and grippy however they suffered from punctures. \u0026nbsp;The Smart Sams were so-so tyres, not particularly supple and average grip.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ca name='more'\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nWhat am I trying to achieve?\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nIn short, better off-road capability and a smoother ride with less punctures... doesn't everyone?\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nI've become more interested in wider more supple tyres generally as well as off-road riding. \u0026nbsp;The market has grown significantly in this regard in the past few years since I built\u0026nbsp;\u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/2013\/12\/project-phil-part-5-tyres.html\"\u003EPhil\u003C\/a\u003E, now there are plenty of tyres that fit the bill.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nI was spoilt by the suppleness and smooth ride of the Challenge Strada Bianca but didn't want to deal with the punctures, so in my mind the solution is to go tubeless in conjunction with sealant. \u0026nbsp;All else being equal, you get a more supple ride too with tubeless.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nWhat about 650b?\u003C\/h3\u003E\nAnother factor that went into my consideration was wheel size, disc brakes allow more flexibility in wheel size choice as you no longer have to worry about the brake surface of the rim matching the brake mounts on the frame. \u0026nbsp;Many disc brake bikes have the flexibility to mount 650b or 700c wheels, also the rolling diameter of a 50mm 650b tyre is about the same as a 32mm 700c tyre. \u0026nbsp;The possibilities for off-road tyres would be opened enormously with 650b as there was a huge amount of choice of MTB tyres.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nI considered this for a while, the frame clearance would allow about a 2.25\" x 650b MTB tyre in the front and about a 47mm wide in the rear, but in the end stuck with 700c as I wanted to be able to fit more road oriented tyres in the end. \u0026nbsp;Going with 650b meant I would only be able to fit wider tyres, narrower 650b tyres would be too small and the ride height of the bike would be lowered noticeably which could cause problems. \u0026nbsp;I figured anyway I could always get a second set of wheels in 650b purely for this purpose.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ch3 style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nChoices\u003C\/h3\u003E\n\u003Cdiv style=\"text-align: left;\"\u003E\nThe tyres that met these criteria were numerous, I settled on having a two pairs of tyres, one for off-road and one for road. \u0026nbsp;For the off-road tyres the first ones I considered were the \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/www.wtb.com\/products\/nano\"\u003EWTB Nano 40c's\u003C\/a\u003E. \u0026nbsp;These were really popular with the gravel crowd and had a nice smooth micro tread that would roll fast. \u0026nbsp;I wasn't really too interested in a full on MTB tread, rather something that would be suitable for loose over hard\/hardpack type conditions. \u0026nbsp;There were also the \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/www.schwalbe.com\/gb\/offroad-reader\/schwalbe-g-one-allround.html\"\u003ESchwalbe G-Ones\u003C\/a\u003E, however I decided that these had too little of a tread and would be insufficient. \u0026nbsp;In the end I settled on the \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/www.gravelcyclist.com\/bicycle-tech\/review-maxxis-rambler-40mm-tires\/\"\u003EMaxxis Ramblers\u003C\/a\u003E, these were extremely light for a 40mm tyre at 380g and had a supple 120tpi carcass and a not too aggressive tread. \u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEg1QTa4eoTNQsC_GpGmMdOeXLv_erwL8Ys6YRgxdJTg3y7HwLjN605cGCBz35YRtu24LIKOKuYLyz6xhDdlYacS9njwpySrk-lJ2v72FtDzeNic6RzhWmx1Gx6rfC5OnPCmf4qQxVipaXJN\/s1600\/DSCF9123.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEg1QTa4eoTNQsC_GpGmMdOeXLv_erwL8Ys6YRgxdJTg3y7HwLjN605cGCBz35YRtu24LIKOKuYLyz6xhDdlYacS9njwpySrk-lJ2v72FtDzeNic6RzhWmx1Gx6rfC5OnPCmf4qQxVipaXJN\/s1600\/DSCF9123.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Ch3\u003E\nThe Rambler\u003C\/h3\u003E\nThey came in at 370g which is 10g lighter than claimed! \u0026nbsp;I fitted them with tubes and inflated them to get them into the right shape ready for mounting tubeless. \u0026nbsp;I had read elsewhere that they come up a little undersized, however after inflating and leaving overnight they came up to about 41mm @ 70psi and 40mm when inflated to 30psi. \u0026nbsp;Although it's not massively wider than the 35mm Smart Sams I had before you can see the difference below.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr class=\"Apple-interchange-newline\" \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca 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href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgiw2AWPmLzTAKY4FVMNWw-yB2UDfz2fFwq0h8gei-dU8f5df-u024LKgHitx5bfog7ym4AX9kCjkfbTHXVGy6mSJ0aT1mugukMvL7T4IYa-XAmfyqwsMsOgY8k9KdV7W3QgWnrvuPi_Go9\/s1600\/DSCF9149.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgiw2AWPmLzTAKY4FVMNWw-yB2UDfz2fFwq0h8gei-dU8f5df-u024LKgHitx5bfog7ym4AX9kCjkfbTHXVGy6mSJ0aT1mugukMvL7T4IYa-XAmfyqwsMsOgY8k9KdV7W3QgWnrvuPi_Go9\/s1600\/DSCF9149.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nThe Bish Bash Bosh frame is meant to clear 40mm tyres and I had measured it beforehand when I was considering 650b. \u0026nbsp;Definitely the fork has plenty of clearance, you could easily go up to a 700c x 45mm tyre even. \u0026nbsp;\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiMBlFA0lNQNlhw0mYmvRMRcIAj-ekO9iYUm15R85nl182P6qDI_UF4LaER5QTmGazuIJ0dLBcN-dAiCGt3tfzxAvQ-kaD6WiBNoWoJcS6_4HcdW9xiTc9-iASjkUZXlxDnK9HVz6ZNHNAe\/s1600\/DSCF9156.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiMBlFA0lNQNlhw0mYmvRMRcIAj-ekO9iYUm15R85nl182P6qDI_UF4LaER5QTmGazuIJ0dLBcN-dAiCGt3tfzxAvQ-kaD6WiBNoWoJcS6_4HcdW9xiTc9-iASjkUZXlxDnK9HVz6ZNHNAe\/s1600\/DSCF9156.jpg\" width=\"425\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"\u003E\nThe seatstays had plenty of room too, however this isn't usually where the pinch point is.\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiq4HleL_CnbUU2yvCYiwegAOiR6opDXgGOQN840pQ6IZqpKD_Dw6MOeXFPYFRp5XbcSwQRm1oJGLryviQbmp25LBcZLRfIe3GmWf06wPPGV6-YLIZncI3FInCsv6wAbE3tJVYv9qSf-GM5\/s1600\/DSCF9163.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiq4HleL_CnbUU2yvCYiwegAOiR6opDXgGOQN840pQ6IZqpKD_Dw6MOeXFPYFRp5XbcSwQRm1oJGLryviQbmp25LBcZLRfIe3GmWf06wPPGV6-YLIZncI3FInCsv6wAbE3tJVYv9qSf-GM5\/s1600\/DSCF9163.jpg\" width=\"426\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nThis is where it is usually tight... the chainstays have to fit the crankset and the tyre side by side. \u0026nbsp;There is about 5mm clearance either side of the tyre so not much room to go larger. \u0026nbsp;I was a little disappointed by this, as I originally entertained the idea of fitting 2.0\" x 650b tyres however it looks like the largest 650b tyre that would fit the chainstays would be about 47mm. \u0026nbsp; Still this is plenty of clearance for my purposes, and I'm well aware this is not a high-end frame meant for a 650b conversion.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgKcRgZBiuF-xnwME6Yeu80nHyTTtl-5xjpsrCBA14kUkjQN3Fo0RXxEjNzwUTzGI5obwqqS3KM8Cvz9fzItT8wp1SdmEY1UMWqghSDTxxRSE1DtWX_suObDK7qXLQ7xP9K2MYMRcwuJKJH\/s1600\/DSCF9164.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgKcRgZBiuF-xnwME6Yeu80nHyTTtl-5xjpsrCBA14kUkjQN3Fo0RXxEjNzwUTzGI5obwqqS3KM8Cvz9fzItT8wp1SdmEY1UMWqghSDTxxRSE1DtWX_suObDK7qXLQ7xP9K2MYMRcwuJKJH\/s1600\/DSCF9164.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Ca href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiYqKG2EzppKvLiEE8L6DhaTcq6LHlonB1BWsfSw6bKKCTcsBqk6S7OzgZdAVe6nXuFA42LizNXxmz4fkTKrcsH7FOUwgbP2mnaiWWPFaT6q3Y0JsxJXs4e8UST9lZ3BTKgmvqkFtNXw1Ll\/s1600\/DSCF9165.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"\u003E\u003Cimg border=\"0\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiYqKG2EzppKvLiEE8L6DhaTcq6LHlonB1BWsfSw6bKKCTcsBqk6S7OzgZdAVe6nXuFA42LizNXxmz4fkTKrcsH7FOUwgbP2mnaiWWPFaT6q3Y0JsxJXs4e8UST9lZ3BTKgmvqkFtNXw1Ll\/s1600\/DSCF9165.jpg\" width=\"640\" \/\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nSo far so good! \u0026nbsp;\u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/smutpedaller.blogspot.co.uk\/2016\/10\/bish-bash-bosh-part-3-rims-and-hubs.html\"\u003EIn the next part I discuss the wheel components...\u003C\/a\u003E \u0026nbsp;Thanks for reading\u003Cbr \/\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"\u003E\n\u003Cbr 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